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High-Performance Blades Sharing ideas for getting the most out of our steel.

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Old 11-20-2003, 11:39 AM
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Question steel jungle

Hi guys,
i?ve got a bit of a problem. i can?t decide on which steel to use for my second knife,
i?ve narrowed it down to these 2.
the first one is called elmax and consists of:
C 1.7
Si 0.8
Mn 0.3
Cr 18
Mo 1.0
V 3.0

the other is called vanadis 10 it consists of:
C 2.9
Si 1.0
Mn 0.5
Cr 8.0
Mo 1.5
V 9.8
both these steels are powder metallurgical cold work tool steels.


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Old 11-20-2003, 11:54 AM
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I think it depends a great deal on what performance features you are looking for. The Elmax has enough cromium to be called "stainless," whereas the Vanadis does not, just as an example.


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Old 11-20-2003, 01:36 PM
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Looking back on the experience, I wouldn't have wanted to use either of those for my second knife. Both are difficult to work. I'd suggest RWL-34. It's a very good steel and a lot less of a headache.


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Old 11-21-2003, 08:33 AM
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I agree with Jerry. Judging by the chemical analysis, neither appear to be easy to work or H/T. Also, from the high chromium & vanadium contents they would appear to have a high abrasion resistance but lack the toughness that I like to see in a blade steel.

It's your call but IMHO for your second knife I would suggest working with one of the knife steels that is more forgiving and stick with it until you know it well. You can experiment with others after that.

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Old 11-21-2003, 09:40 PM
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I tried to get some Vanadis 10 and 4 last year from Uddeholm in the US and they didn't stock either in sizes anywhere near blade barstock.

I am really interested in the Vanadis 4. It is sort of between 3V and S30V in composition and specs.

I Dubyu lifts the steel tariffs, I might be able to afford some.


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