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Old 09-09-2015, 01:28 PM
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Saw blade steel

Well I gotta say the Chrome Nickel Moly Saw blade steel is pretty awesome for free steel. Takes a shaving sharp edge, is hard as hell but not brittle and seems to hold the edge amazingly well thus far.

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Old 09-09-2015, 06:52 PM
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Are you not heat treating it? As is the typical saw blade is going to be around 45RHC, not hard enough for a knife.
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Old 09-09-2015, 07:26 PM
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Are you not heat treating it? As is the typical saw blade is going to be around 45RHC, not hard enough for a knife.
Oh ya I am Heat treating it, Brought it up to non-magnetic then Oil quenched, and tempered it in hot oil at 375 for an hour twice. Dont know what the RHC is but the drill press would not go through the handle once i heat treated it.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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Why are you tempering in hot oil? That's completely unnecessary and possibly a little dangerous as most oils combust right around 400 F. A clean blade in a toaster oven at about 400- 425F for an hour is more appropriate ....


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Old 09-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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That should do. If the edge is still chippy give it another hour at 400F.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:38 PM
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Why are you tempering in hot oil? That's completely unnecessary and possibly a little dangerous as most oils combust right around 400 F. A clean blade in a toaster oven at about 400- 425F for an hour is more appropriate ....

I have an Old Deep Fryer and i read somewhere about it. So i figured why not. Also Deep Fryer uses less electricity than the kitchen oven and i have not got a toaster oven yet

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That's one mean-looking blade. Show us when it's done (I do assume you will put some sort of grip on it or are you going for the made-from-a-tin-cup-in-jail-look?)
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:56 PM
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That's one mean-looking blade. Show us when it's done (I do assume you will put some sort of grip on it or are you going for the made-from-a-tin-cup-in-jail-look?)
Nice work!
Yep need to get some epoxy im out but i do plan to put a white pine handle on it or maybe red cedar not sure yet.
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:38 PM
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Either would look nice although they're both pretty soft woods. How about maple instead of pine? Similar coloring but a lot harder. One thing to watch out for when using light colored woods is that the grey metal dust likes to get embedded in the pores of the wood when you finish the scales on the knife. I had a few problems with hazelnut that way. I had to be very careful with the sanding to make sure i wasn't rubbing the metal filings into the wood. Good luck; looking forward to whatever you come up with.


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Old 09-16-2015, 02:56 PM
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Either would look nice although they're both pretty soft woods. How about maple instead of pine? Similar coloring but a lot harder. One thing to watch out for when using light colored woods is that the grey metal dust likes to get embedded in the pores of the wood when you finish the scales on the knife. I had a few problems with hazelnut that way. I had to be very careful with the sanding to make sure i wasn't rubbing the metal filings into the wood. Good luck; looking forward to whatever you come up with.
I also have some Oak around here somewhere, may just use that lol
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I have an Old Deep Fryer and i read somewhere about it. So i figured why not. Also Deep Fryer uses less electricity than the kitchen oven and i have not got a toaster oven yet
Get thee hence to the nearest Goodwill or similar place. Old toaster over will do you for about $10.


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Get thee hence to the nearest Goodwill or similar place. Old toaster over will do you for about $10.

Ill check that out
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Old 10-19-2015, 07:46 AM
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Get thee hence to the nearest Goodwill or similar place. Old toaster over will do you for about $10.
Took your Advice and hit the thrift store, found a toaster oven for 2.50! Great advice man!
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Don't rely on the dial settings on the toaster oven (usually way off). Get two insertable oven t-meters and place one in front and one in back. Adjust dial to balance heat between the two (average) for the temp you want. Mark the dial so you know, but always check with the T-meters for accuracy.
Insulating the TO will help even more to stabilize the temp.


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Old 10-26-2015, 12:58 PM
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Don't rely on the dial settings on the toaster oven (usually way off). Get two insertable oven t-meters and place one in front and one in back. Adjust dial to balance heat between the two (average) for the temp you want. Mark the dial so you know, but always check with the T-meters for accuracy.
Insulating the TO will help even more to stabilize the temp.

Thanks for the advice!
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