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Old 06-13-2014, 07:48 PM
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2 brick forge torch help

I have been doing some reading and it seems some of the torches being referenced ate no longer being made. Can someone please let me know a good torch to use with a 2 brick forge?
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:45 PM
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Go to Ray Rogers website and build your own bro. It'll be better than any crap torch you can buy.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:02 PM
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I use a Bernzomatic BZ8250HTKC from one of the box stores. It cost about $70. There are others that are cheaper that will probably work. I use a paint can forge.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:12 PM
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Well I use one of these until I get my oven. It works, but it works, but then I only use 1084 until I get that oven

http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html


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Old 06-14-2014, 10:04 AM
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Go to Ray Rogers website and build your own bro. It'll be better than any crap torch you can buy.
That is exactly what i have done. Working out well too. Good advice here.


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Old 06-14-2014, 01:01 PM
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Thank you all. Im just learning how to make a forge. Still not sure on the brick or can method. Im trying to get a list together of material and what works. Thank you to who posted.
Any suggestions on securing bricks or insulation?
how about furnace cement.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE: "Any suggestions on securing bricks or insulation?"

If your local hardware store doesn't have any, you can order firebrick and refractory cement from http://www.hightemptools.com or http://www.usaknifemaker.com


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Old 06-14-2014, 02:31 PM
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Thank you. Do I use soft or hard blocks. I was thinking soft for the outer portion.
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Personally, I'd use ceramic wool. But, if you insist on bricks, we use both types. The soft bricks are generally used wherever reshaping the brick is necessary, such as when a chamber is formed for a one-brick forge. The hard bricks get used for 'doors' at the front and rear or for support under a forge.

When you say 'outer portion' you give me the willies because it makes me think you're building some largish framework of hard bricks with more soft bricks on the inside. But then, you mentioned using a torch for a heat source. If all that brick was what you have in mind you'll probably never get it hot with a regular torch. The more mass you have the more heat you need, the more time it takes, the more fuel is required. Some forges are built that way but you need a real forge burner to heat them.

If you plan to use a torch then one or two soft bricks is all the brick you want for a forge body. But again, a small can lined with wool is likely to be a better deal all around and, if its small enough, you can still use the torch (although you would be much better off building a simple burner) ....


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Old 06-14-2014, 06:17 PM
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Understood. Thank you. Suggestions on making a burner? I see usaknife has some parts that they sell for commercial forges. I would appreciate suggestions.

Im sorry about my previous post. Im looking to build small one or two brick forage or can forge. I am not sure what burner or totch to use for these applications. I see some suggestions and looking for ones that are used. Perhaps someone could post a photo of your setup with the torch or burner set up.

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Understood. Thank you. Suggestions on making a burner? I see usaknife has some parts that they sell for commercial forges. I would appreciate suggestions.

Im sorry about my previous post. Im looking to build small one or two brick forage or can forge. I am not sure what burner or totch to use for these applications. I see some suggestions and looking for ones that are used. Perhaps someone could post a photo of your setup with the torch or burner set up.

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http://www.knifenetwork.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=63662

I have just gone through this exact process mate. Check out the thread.

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usaknife has burners and also burners packaged with regulators. The burner and regulator for $50 has got to be one of the best deals around. That's about the price of a decent torch and far more useful in a forge. That burner and regulator plus some wool and maybe a couple of thin fire bricks and about all you would need is a can to complete your forge....

Or, if you can wait maybe another two/three weeks, I am finishing up a video that shows exactly how this type of forge AND the burners can be built for very little money and without welding or machining ...


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I have to side with everybody else. When I decided to build my forge I made the right decision and built it with items that were meant to be used for a forge, and avoided the making do with ready made hardware store items to make a forge philosophy. Because like everything else in knife making, when you settle for less when making a forge or a cheap grinder, you will very quickly want to "upgrade" to what you should have done or bought in the first place. Just my 2 cents, but in the long run it will actually save you money. Good luck.

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Old 06-15-2014, 05:45 AM
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usaknife has burners and also burners packaged with regulators. The burner and regulator for $50 has got to be one of the best deals around. That's about the price of a decent torch and far more useful in a forge. That burner and regulator plus some wool and maybe a couple of thin fire bricks and about all you would need is a can to complete your forge....

Or, if you can wait maybe another two/three weeks, I am finishing up a video that shows exactly how this type of forge AND the burners can be built for very little money and without welding or machining ...
Great no problem. Again I wanted to do it right. Please leg me know when you post it up!. Ill look at the products you mentioned also.

I may just bite the bullet and buy the atlas forge. I need to look into shipping cost.
Thanks Tim

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Old 06-17-2014, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE: "Any suggestions on securing bricks or insulation?"

If your local hardware store doesn't have any, you can order firebrick and refractory cement from http://www.hightemptools.com or http://www.usaknifemaker.com

Man, I wish I'd found those links before I ordered my bricks. Ordered 4 soft and 6 hard (So I could lay the hard ones down under the soft and insulate the surface the forge sat on.

$42 for the bricks, 50 for the shipping. Oy.

Lesson learned.
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