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01-24-2006, 05:44 PM
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help with a winged spear!!
Hi All
I could use a bit of help , after going over every idea book and ref. i have along with a time comsuming but useless web surch, I still can't figure this out. on the vikeing winged style spears how was it assembled ?? I have an order for one and I came up with a few ways I could make it, but I can't figure out how they would have made it. also the only photos I can find are of relics from digs ... and a bit hard to make out other than the genral shape. so help ... please ? the thing I am stuck on is ho wthe wings would be attached, are they part of the blade? sort of tenoned into the shank? is the socket part of the blade or a seprit peice forge welded on? are the wings a 2dn or 3rd part that ride in a slot and are riveted? brazed? welded in? any idea guys? MP __________________ Matthew Parkinson Blacksmith "In the begining there was the steel, in the end there will be a knife....with skill and a little luck it will be a good knife!" 
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#2
01-24-2006, 07:35 PM
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Ypey did a reconstruction of an assembly sequence which is not too far off, there's a diagram of the sequence in "Damascus Steel" by Sachse.
The wings were either set into slots or forge-welded on. Do a google image search for 'spear' or 'winged spear' in germanic or scandinavian languages and you should come up with something... http://www.hermann-historica.de/aukt...db=kat47_2.txt That's an ugly one! Make the socket with extra metal on the point side, weld the wings to the socket, weld the damascus panels to the extra metal, wrap with edge steel & weld. Forge into spear.
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01-25-2006, 08:54 AM
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Here's a drawing of one from Norway -
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01-25-2006, 10:00 AM
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I think they look better with a concave return from the blade to the socket, but that is more common on non-winged spears from the period.
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01-25-2006, 08:04 PM
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A shot of the one I was ask to copy.
__________________ Matthew Parkinson Blacksmith "In the begining there was the steel, in the end there will be a knife....with skill and a little luck it will be a good knife!" Last edited by MPMetal; 02-08-2007 at 03:02 PM.
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#6
01-26-2006, 09:49 AM
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That's a really nice one, from Gotland, no?
Since the photo is almost straight on, you could print it out, enlarge it on a photocopier until the spear was 16-20" and make a drawing from there - do you have any scale information?
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#8
05-17-2006, 09:09 PM
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finshed winged spear
well this is what I came up with the core is 1080 and 15n20 the edge is 1050 the haft is mild steel pipe the wing is 180 and 15n20 with a 1018 border the patten is a loose ceveron in the blade and a loose W in the wing.
I ended up pining the wing in place through a fitted slot .... I am still not sure how it could be forge welded in palace. I am sure it can be done, just can't figure out how. hope you all like it MP __________________ Matthew Parkinson Blacksmith "In the begining there was the steel, in the end there will be a knife....with skill and a little luck it will be a good knife!" Last edited by MPMetal; 02-08-2007 at 03:02 PM.
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05-18-2006, 05:45 PM
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thanks .. I lost a bit of sleep on this one.
__________________ Matthew Parkinson Blacksmith "In the begining there was the steel, in the end there will be a knife....with skill and a little luck it will be a good knife!"
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