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Old 09-16-2010, 10:01 AM
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Certified Instructor?

Is anyone here a certified instructor?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:47 AM
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Who exactly would do the certifying? Sorry, there is no such thing as a certified knife making instructor. About the only type of certification for knife makers is as a Journeyman or Master Smith. Achieving those certifications means you know how to forge a blade and finish a knife and probably do it better than most people but it doesn't mean you can teach any better than anyone else. So, no certified instructors.

However, there are many good videos on the various aspects of knife making and many of them are pretty good teachers. Look into getting some videos ....


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Old 09-16-2010, 12:06 PM
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Thank god our craft has not become that highly regulated and structured (yet).
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:53 PM
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The reason I was asking is that I know ED has a class that he charges for. And im sure a few of you also have something like that. I can get the class paid for by my tribe "Choctaw Nation" if a "certified instructor" is teaching it. They would pay for the class and materials and tools I would need. Its part of there Career Development Program. They would also help me pay for the stuff to set up a shop for me to work in.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:42 PM
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If you are referring to Ed Caffrey he's a Master Smith and that is as close to a 'certified instructor' as knife making has to offer.

That said, if you are under the age of 60 and are looking at knife making as a career you will need all the financial help and help of every other kind that you can get. I don't like to make absolute statements because there are so many factors that can affect most everything but, generally speaking, don't figure on making enough money to cover your expenses for three to 5 years at a minimum. If you have a family to support it's almost out of the question. There are exceptions, of course, but for the most part knife making should be a hobby for 10 years or so before you even think of trying to make a living at it ....


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Old 09-16-2010, 02:44 PM
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Well, Ed would certainly qualify because of his vast amount of knowledge , experience, ans abillity. He will pop in here any time. Check back often. Frank


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Old 09-16-2010, 07:18 PM
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You might see if the ABS knifemaker's school would constitute a certified course. It is instructed by ABS mastersmiths and qualifies as experience towards ABS certification as a Jouneyman or mastersmith. Of course one must spend time as a journeyman before they can apply to test for mastersmith just as one has to be registered with the ABS as an apprentice before testing for journeyman. There are a few colleges around that teach knifesmithing, sort of like a summer or community outreach program. I just looked at your header. I don't know where Atoka is but the ABS school is at Texarkana College at Texarkana, Texas. If the tribe can give you a hand with the scholarship, it's a lot closer to you than Ed Caffrey is. If it is something that you are interested in go to the American Bladesmith Society web site and take a look.

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Old 09-16-2010, 07:46 PM
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I was a certified welder, teacher, preacher, husband, and dad.
Some may say I am even be "certify-able"
There are no documents to certify when you become a maker, it is more a proclaimation.
I am a teacher, as is Ed, Don, and many others here.
It is a simple matter of paying dues to get where you want to be.
Center Cross Instructional Videos has about 30 videos on this very subject (knifemaking), and all lessons come from instructors with decades of experience.
We put these together because there were no schools that taught it all.
If you want to know about forging, grinding, knifemaking, sculpting, engraving, fileworking, sheaths, scrimshaw, electrolysis, folders, silver wire inlay, damascus, and the likes...
These lessons are ready to come to your door today, with more lessons on the way.
Many here will "certify" what I am saying is quite true.
My shop is in Ft. Worth Texas if you ever want to visit.
Welcome, and happy hunting.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:58 PM
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Accredited programs are what they mean.
The ABS school in Arkansas works with the local college and gives credits for the classes.
GRS has an engraving school similar, but there is no knifemaking school to graduate from.
Anyone in the business at least 20 years or more, I think could answer your questions, but the "grant" to go to school would have to be an accredited institution.
Classes would have to be approved ahead of time.(at least that's the way it use to work)
I hope this helps answer both ways.
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Ditto what Geno says..........I am a retired school teacher and can do a great lesson plan, but i am not certified to teach knifemaking....I am just a hobby type knifemaker as a lot of them are...Ask away on any part of knife making and someone will help out.....Good luck...........It still a lot of fun and some of the nicest guys are on here............carl


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