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Old 02-19-2014, 10:12 AM
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I ruined some kitchen scales

I would love to be able to blame this on someone else, but that just isn't what happened.

Long story short, one of our kitchen knives was sitting a little too close to the burner while I was cooking and I MAY have melted a portion of the scales.

Of course, it would have to be my favorite knife to use in kitchen prepwork.

Now that I have my confession laid out there, my question is as follows:

How should I go about removing the scales so I can fashion replacements?

This is something new for me. For many reasons I was unable to participate in the kitchen KITH, much to my dismay. I guess I was meant to learn something using kitchen knives anyway. Attached there should be a picture of the injured knife.

Many thanks in advance to everyone. I continue to learn something new every time I visit here, and I'm in the works of starting my first friction folder. I'll post some work in progress photos as soon as the steel arrives



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Old 02-19-2014, 10:41 AM
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I've done dozens of those repairs. Just run a metal cutting bandsaw (or a hacksaw) along the tang and cut through the rivets - the scales will pop right off....


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Old 02-19-2014, 12:38 PM
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Or, you could grind one side of the scales down until the "stem" of the rivets are exposed. Drift them out from that side. This might prevent accidental scratching when you run a saw blade down the tang.

Another example of there not being any one "right way" to do things.

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Old 02-19-2014, 12:50 PM
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Thanks very much for the quick replies. It is much appreciated.

I'm sure that this follow up question has many answers as well but here goes nothing.

What would you all recommend for scales? Aesthetics aside, are there scale materials that lend themselves better to the kitchen environment ?

My thoughts are leaning toward micarta or something similar, as I have not used it before and what better time to try than now. I imagine that despite our best intentions, this knife may end up in the dishwasher at some point and I would hate for the scales to be ruined by that. My guess, having read on the forum about micarta and other synthetics, is that they may tolerate the water and other assorted oils and food juices better than the natural alternatives. I'm certainly no expert...the opposite in fact, so I welcome all suggestions and input.

Speaking of aesthetics, I am not concerned about matching the color and texture of the new scales to the old ones. In some ways it would be kind of nice if it stood out as not only a repair, but an improvement.


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Old 02-19-2014, 01:25 PM
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Definitely Micarta or G-10 if it must go in a dish washer. I also use professionally stabilized wood when I can trust that the knife will be hand washed.

Put a good glue under the scales, I like AcraGlas but a good Marine epoxy will work. That keeps water from sitting under the scales and rusting the tang (which it will do even if the blade is stainless) ...


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Old 02-19-2014, 06:17 PM
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That's great! I'm excited to use it for the first time.

Thanks very much for the replies. I will post before and after pictures when I am complete.


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Old 02-20-2014, 10:21 AM
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You may already know this, but its my uderstanding respirators are a must when using G10 or Micarta.

I have also seen Krinite as a reccomended material for kitchen knives. I haven't used it, but it may be another option for you to consider.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:32 PM
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Thanks for the word of warning concerning G10 and Micarta. I will be taking the necessary precautions when working with either.

Krinite is a new one for me. I have not come across it before, and will have to research it more. Thanks for your input.


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Old 02-21-2014, 07:03 PM
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Here is some help with the Krinite, it is an exclusive product of USAKnifemakers.com
http://usaknifemaker.com/handle-mate...k-mop-1-4.html

Below the item, it gives a full description of what it is and how to use it. I have used it on
a few knives and really like the results. Something different from G10 and Micarta.
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:49 AM
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Great advice. Most of the scales are ruined because of mishandling. Digital scales or any other scale must be handled with utmost care and precision. The above given link for the guide and help is very helpful. thanks for this great help.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:09 AM
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You might have already been abl to pop those scales off, but I read your thread and thought I would offer some advice, free of charge, of course!!!

I had a knife made with walnut scales. An order was placed for four of these knives with purple heart, and I decided to make three new knives, and remove the walnut from the fourth knife (already made). The scales were held in place by three brass pins and epoxy. After drilling the pins out with a drill press, I placed the knife in the freezer overnight, turning it all the way down cold. The next day I placed the handle in boiling water for a few minutes, then back into the freezer over night.

I was able to peel the scales off with my hands. It was a super easy fix to something I was dredding.

Anyways, I hope you have success!!!
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:24 PM
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Thanks to everyone who has offered their thoughts and advice. It is much appreciated. To keep everyone up to date, I was able to get the scales off, and the G10 has arrived. I also have some stainless steel with brass loveless bolts. I'm currently testing an extra loveless bolt on the scrap leftover G10. I'm hoping to iron out some of the kinks as I've never used either material or loveless bolts before. Then I will work on fixing the knife. I should have it done this week. I will post photos when I have completed


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Old 03-19-2014, 09:54 AM
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Alright, time to wrap this thread up!

Thanks to everyone who offered advice and suggestions. As promised, I have so pictures of the new scales.

1/8" Red and Black G10, stainless and brass loveless bolts and marine grade epoxy(so it should hopefully be dishwasher proof, should it accidentally make it in).

Please shout out your feedback, it was a first time for a lot of things. loveless bolts, G10, replacing scales on a knife. Well basically everything about it.

The thin handle feels great in my hand, and I can't wait to use it!





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Nice job man. It looks really good


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You can buy the new kitchen scales from Amazon.

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