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Old 08-12-2002, 03:37 PM
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Gemstone Question and Finishing Question

Greetings all:

This is my first posting to this forum, but I've been reading them for a while and have been really impressed with the overall knowledge of everyone, so I've come to you with two questions that I have.

I am a fairly new knifemaker, and really all I've made before is kit knives, but I'm making a really nice knife for my father for Christmas. I am wanting to put a small peice of synthetic Lapis Lazuli in the front of it as kind of an accent peice, as blue is his favorite color, and I was the best way of attaching it. Is just epoxying it good enough? Will it hold pins if I were to pin it, or would the peening the pins crack the material? My source for the Lapis is Jantz Supply out of Davis, OK.

Also, what does everyone use to finish their knives with? I've been using some gunstock finish that my dad has for his gunstocks, Birchwood-Casey's TruOil. But I was wondering what other options are out there. Does it depend on the type of wood that you're using, or what?

Thanks for your help in advance,
Jason Mills
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Old 08-12-2002, 06:44 PM
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Jason,

You didn't specify what kind of knife and how it's built but if you're asking about pins I'll assume it's a full tang fixed blade or maybe you want to use the stone as part of a folder's scales. Either way, epoxy will not be sufficient to hold it. You will need some kind of pins too.

Some of these guys can peen a pin in stone like that but I'm not that good at it. I would simply drill a hole that is large enough for my pin to go through without being forced and then use some really strong epoxy. If everything is fitted correctly, that will hold it as well as anything else.

There are some threads on finishing wood that pretty well exhaust the subject if you want to look them up. Bottom line: use any normal finishing process that is appropriate for the wood you have. But, using stabilized wood is the way to go for most of us. No finishing at all beyond sanding and polishing and the finish will last as long as the wood does...

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Old 08-12-2002, 09:08 PM
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Sorry about that. It is a full tang fixed blade. It's kind of a special knife for me, as it's the first Damascus blade that I've ever worked on, and it's going to be a gift for my father.

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Old 08-12-2002, 11:25 PM
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Here's another question for ya'll.... Can you work the stone the same way as the handle material? For example, can I just put a block of the material on the blade, and then sand it away like I do my wood scales?

Thanks again for all the help.

Jason
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Old 08-13-2002, 09:26 AM
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Jason, I have used a recon stone for knife handles, works well with our standard knife making tools. You do need pins as Ray has said and a good epoxy, I use what is called 220 or 330 in the jewelery world, that is where you go to find it. Recon stone is heat sensitive, the surface turns white, use a slow belt or hand tools, sand to at least 220 grit or better if you get too fine it just plugs the sand paper up, buff with machless white or white diamond. Slab handles don't work as well as segmented handles with a through tang and a threaded on butt cap. Hope this helps.
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