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File Name?
What is the name of the file that is used to create lines that are very close together that provide a friction point. How is that file used? Is it used to start the lines and then another file is used to get them deeper or is it used from start to finish. Thanks for the info in advance.
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I think you are talking about a checkering file. They have a structured pattern of straight lines that transfer onto the knife. There are different types that will have different spacing between each line.
I'm not sure where you can buy them though, jantz probably sells them or any other knife making buisness. |
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Yes, that's a checkering file. The ones I use are 20 lpi which is the coarsest they make. You do use them start to finish - no other file required. They are more expensive than just about any other file and you do not want to use them on hardened steel. As stated above, I believe Jantz does carry them, I think other knife supply places carry them too, and Brownells also has them...
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Thanks folks. I looked earlier for this info and couldn't fine the info. After I put this post on I was looking around for the info and found it in pieces around the net. It is in fact called a checkering file. As you said Ray the most popular is 20 lpi. I found a you tube video of a guy using one.
Sorry for prematurely asking a question. Maybe someone else will be able to benefit from this post. This gentleman in the video said it was ok to put oil on the file however I read somewhere else never to do that because it encourages "Pins" or stuck chips in the file. I am guessing putting oil on a file is a bad thing. __________________ Walt |
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I've never put oil on a file and can't imagine why I would want to. It would surely be very messy....
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The only thing I would put on a file would be chalk, in some extensive file training I had (not joking) when we had a brand new file we would rub chalk on it. I felt it helped from keeping the teeth from getting clogged.
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They have them at www.Brownells.com for $36.70. I am actually passing through that area of Iowa Thursday and am picking one up. Also they have a great Nicholson cabinet makers rasp that an ABS Master Smith advised me to get for profiling handles. Those are $53.99. Not cheap but superior quality.
A tip I received at a recent ABS hammer-in was to get some non-permanent powdered chalk (for snapping chalk lines) from the hardware store and powder your file with it before using and the chips do not load up. It has worked really well for me on some Grobet needle files I have. Tony Z Kansas City, MO __________________ ABS Apprentice Bladesmith USMC Veteran VFW Life Member "Retreat? Hell, we just got here!" Captain Lloyd Williams, USMC Battle Of Belleau Wood June 1918 |
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good info thanks
__________________ Walt |
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Hey guys what about jimping on a concave surface?
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Is there a round checkering file? or just one that's not very wide
__________________ -Hunter |
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There are no round checkering files that I know of. Checkering files are only about a half inch wide so you can often work your way around a convex surface without much trouble.
A concave surface is more difficult. To solve that problem, I took a checkering file to a machine shop that had an EDM machine. I had them slice the file lengthwise several times to create a very narrow file that only cuts one groove at a time. The little files have two ridges and one groove so you can still step them along to evenly space your work. Kind of an extreme solution but it works very well ... |
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Thats a good idea. Thanks
__________________ -Hunter |
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I found that "Otto Frei" Is a good place to order high quality files.
__________________ Walt |
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If I'm not mistaken, checkering files are only used to start your lines. Then the lines/diamonds are pointed up using a riffler file. Checkering files are not meant to cut to full depth. I think Brownells used to have them all the way up to 75LPI, but if you can checker to 75LPI, you're a bad mofo. Check MidwayUSA for how to videos on checkering as well...
__________________ You can take laxatives and you can take a sleeping pill. Just don't ever take them at the same time! Last edited by PsychoDawg; 11-13-2013 at 08:49 PM. |
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No, checkering files are used to cut full depth and to create the diamonds. The diamonds are created by simply turning the file across the grooves you already cut. Done it many times. I learned to use a checkering file from a gunsmith who did some very nice work with one ...
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