MEMBER ITEMS FOR SALE
Custom Knives | Other Knives | General Items
-------------------------------------------
New Posts | New PhotosAll Photos



Go Back   The Knife Network Forums : Knife Making Discussions > Custom Knife Discussion Boards > Knife Making Discussions > The Newbies Arena

The Newbies Arena Are you new to knife making? Here is all the help you will need.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-28-2016, 01:14 AM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Thumbs up Hello!

Hello Everyone,

I'm a novice knife maker, and have taken a few blacksmithing classes at the Pratt Fine Art Institute in Seattle. My focus is mainly on damascus and historical blades, particularly from the Viking period. I've been working on setting up a shop in my garage, and have acquired most of the basic tools I need. Still looking for a good anvil though. I'm currently using a piece of railroad track.

I'm also a commercial pilot, flight instructor, and for my day job I work in the software industry.

-Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-28-2016, 08:28 AM
Ray Rogers's Avatar
Ray Rogers Ray Rogers is offline
Founding Member / Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wauconda, WA
Posts: 9,779
Welcome Jack! Stop into the Chat Room tonight. You won't be the only new knife maker there, not even the only commercial pilot or IS person....


__________________

Your question may already have been answered - try the Search button first!






Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-28-2016, 09:39 AM
Andrew Garrett's Avatar
Andrew Garrett Andrew Garrett is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nampa, Idaho
Posts: 3,579
Welcome from a History major who also likes Vikings (the tv show anyway) and a fellow pilot (PP/SEL)!

There was an 85lb Peter Wright anvil on Ebay yesterday.


__________________
Andy Garrett
https://www.facebook.com/GarrettKnives?ref=hl
Charter Member - Kansas Custom Knifemaker's Association
www.kansasknives.org

"Drawing your knife from its sheath and using it in the presence of others should be an event complete with oos, ahhs, and questions."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-28-2016, 06:48 PM
Hunter10139's Avatar
Hunter10139 Hunter10139 is offline
Skilled
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Northern Alabama
Posts: 396
Welcome to the forums, I'm excited to see some of your work.


__________________
-Hunter
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-29-2016, 04:52 AM
Crex's Avatar
Crex Crex is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Acworth, GA and/or Hanging Dog, NC
Posts: 3,483
Welcome! We need more "smiths" too many Johnson's and Davis's out there......
Show us some of your work when you get a chance.


__________________
Carl Rechsteiner, Bladesmith
Georgia Custom Knifemakers Guild, Charter Member
Knifemakers Guild, voting member
Registered Master Artist - GA Council for the Arts
C Rex Custom Knives

Blade Show Table 5-J
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-01-2016, 11:50 PM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Garrett View Post
Welcome from a History major who also likes Vikings (the tv show anyway) and a fellow pilot (PP/SEL)!

There was an 85lb Peter Wright anvil on Ebay yesterday.
I'm also a history major! I was working on my PhD in medieval history before I moved into the tech sector. Frankly I got tired of spending all my time learning French, German, Latin, and Arabic, and when I got a job offer writing software making more than I would make after spending 11 years getting a PhD, I went with the tech job.

I just found a guy here in WA who restores leg vises, and I'm picking one up from him this weekend. He's also going to introduce me to "a guy" who has a barn full of anvils for sale. Apparently he has several Peter Wrights and Hay Buddens for $2 - $3 a pound. Hoping to pick up one this weekend.

-Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-01-2016, 11:51 PM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Rogers View Post
Welcome Jack! Stop into the Chat Room tonight. You won't be the only new knife maker there, not even the only commercial pilot or IS person....
Wasn't able to make the chat on Sunday, but I will try to be there this weekend.

-Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-02-2016, 11:40 AM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Here are a couple of blades I'm currently working on. The top one is a damascus bowie/camp knife. It's the first damascus billet I ever made. The bottom one is a broken-back seax out of 1095.



Here's the damascus blade after a little more grinding:



Unfortunately this is what's on the other side. I think some flux got included. I'm not sure if I should cut off the end and make a shorter knife or, as someone suggested to me, drill out the hole and hammer some brass into it.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-02-2016, 12:21 PM
WNC Goater WNC Goater is offline
Skilled
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NC Mountains
Posts: 469
That damascus has an interesting pattern. I love the look of damascus. I'm currently making a couple of damascus blades but using the steel from Alabama Damascus. Realistically I know little about it as far as the blacksmithing skills or metallurgy behind it

That hole...I don't know, depending on the intended use I'd probably just go forward and finish it and see what happens. You can always go back later and shorten it. Unless there's some unseen void behind it I doubt it would ever be an issue. I guess it could hold moisture and cause rust from within.
The case could be made that it just adds to the character as far as cosmetics goes.


__________________
Find me on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/gpopecustomknives/

Gloria In Excelsis Deo!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-02-2016, 12:31 PM
Andrew Garrett's Avatar
Andrew Garrett Andrew Garrett is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Nampa, Idaho
Posts: 3,579
From what I've heard first hand, Alabama Damascus is good steel for blades and heat treats well.


__________________
Andy Garrett
https://www.facebook.com/GarrettKnives?ref=hl
Charter Member - Kansas Custom Knifemaker's Association
www.kansasknives.org

"Drawing your knife from its sheath and using it in the presence of others should be an event complete with oos, ahhs, and questions."
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-02-2016, 02:45 PM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNC Goater View Post
That hole...I don't know, depending on the intended use I'd probably just go forward and finish it and see what happens. You can always go back later and shorten it. Unless there's some unseen void behind it I doubt it would ever be an issue. I guess it could hold moisture and cause rust from within.
The case could be made that it just adds to the character as far as cosmetics goes.
Interesting thought. The hole actually goes almost completely through the blade.

-Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-02-2016, 07:45 PM
WNC Goater WNC Goater is offline
Skilled
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NC Mountains
Posts: 469
I don't know much about forging but is it a possibility to take a tiny ball of annealed steel, put a tiny piece of silver solder or similar in the hole, then peen that ball of steel into the hole, then heat it to flow the solder and fuse in the ball, then grind smooth?


__________________
Find me on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/gpopecustomknives/

Gloria In Excelsis Deo!!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-02-2016, 07:52 PM
WNC Goater WNC Goater is offline
Skilled
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NC Mountains
Posts: 469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Garrett View Post
From what I've heard first hand, Alabama Damascus is good steel for blades and heat treats well.
Well thats good to know. I was over at Smokey Mountain Knife Works in Tennessee several weeks ago and they had some pieces as well as some cheap Pakistani damascus. I picked up a few pieces of the Alabama and their pamphlet with heat treating recommendations.
I've got a couple blades ground and treated ready for handles. One warped but I straightened it without too much trouble. Edge deflection test looked good. Anxious to get them finished and try them out.


__________________
Find me on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/gpopecustomknives/

Gloria In Excelsis Deo!!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-02-2016, 08:41 PM
geekxx geekxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNC Goater View Post
I don't know much about forging but is it a possibility to take a tiny ball of annealed steel, put a tiny piece of silver solder or similar in the hole, then peen that ball of steel into the hole, then heat it to flow the solder and fuse in the ball, then grind smooth?
Being a rank beginner, I have no idea if that would work or not. I would be concerned that it would be a glaring blemish in the damascus pattern though. The brass inlay idea intrigues me, as I think it could look nicely artistic. I thought about drilling a row of holes along the blade and filling them with brass. I think the way I would do that would be to drill the holes, say 1/4", heat the blade a little bit to expand the metal, then hammer 1/4" brass rod into the hole. When the blade cools I'd think that would firmly hold the brass in place. Am I correct?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-03-2016, 12:06 AM
Doug Lester Doug Lester is offline
Hall of Famer
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Decatur, IL
Posts: 2,558
Well one thing is that it looks like the spot is surrounded by a dimple that is below the surrounding steel. Probably caused by being stuck too hard or having the face of the hammer come down unevenly. You can really see that on the seax. Another possibility is a high crown on the face of the hammer. I find flat faces work best and rarely use the one with the high crowned face.

You might have also hammered some scale into the surface of the steel that came out later. Maybe when you brushed it up. I guess that if you had a piece of that damascus you could clean up that spot and try to forge weld that piece into the blade and grind it level but the best thing would probably be to cut the blade shorter. I would not try to fix it with an unlike metal.

Doug


__________________
If you're not making mistakes then you're not trying hard enough
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
1095, anvil, back, billet, bowie, brass, camp knife, damascus, damascus blade, drill, for sale, forging, german, grinding, hammer, knife, made, make, making, new knife maker, peter wright, sale, show, software, steel


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:20 AM.




KNIFENETWORK.COM
Copyright © 2000
? CKK Industries, Inc. ? All Rights Reserved
Powered by ...

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
The Knife Network : All Rights Reserved