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Old 05-15-2016, 07:19 PM
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Sheath question for Ron Matthews

I stumbled across this old Model 3 pinned stag handle knife with a unique sheath! Being that you are the resident authority on Model 3's, I was curious if you have ever seen one before?

Found it in an arms auction where they stated it being a Johnson roughback, darn gun dealers! lol
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:07 AM
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Bill,

Just one "t" in this Mathews - thanks.

I have never seen another like it (Model 3 or any Randall Model). What I can tell you is that that flap at the top of the sheath with a hole in it was part of a patent for a sheath with a handle retention feature called "Safe-Lok" by Harry Morseth (No. 2,650,008). It is well known that Bo tried several other sheathmakers besides Stockman to find a replacement for Heiser before Gary found Johnson. Harry was a contemporary of Bo's for many years, so it's not a stretch to assume that the two knew each other. If I had to guess, Bo gave Harry a shot at making Safe-Lok sheaths for his knives and no deal was worked out. Bottom line is that it is a rare sheath and a great item for discussion. A photo of the backside may also help identify it.

Ron

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Old 05-16-2016, 07:54 AM
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Sorry about the name spelling Sir.

I knew it was some kind of a Morseth knock-off with his Safe-Lok sheath design. For an item like that to come up at a gun auction and fly under the radar is pretty amazing! (This lot sold for $550.00 in 2013)

You need eyes in the back, front and sides of your head to try to catch all of the Randall oddities that come across the auction block!
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Old 05-16-2016, 05:52 PM
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Nice find Bill. What I would like to know, is who wound up with the WW2 Hunter with the furnace link? Furthermore, will we be seeing it at Blade? Hmmm?
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Old 05-16-2016, 06:13 PM
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It didn't land in my collection........Nor will the Abercrombie & Fitch Commando.......
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Old 05-17-2016, 07:38 AM
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Another thought, Bill: The sheath looks very well made despite the miles on it. That and the feature of the stone pocket flap conforming to the outline of the snap may make it a candidate for being made by CJ Moore. Here's a photo of one of his sheaths from around the same era (early 50's). I'm not sure he'd worry about the patent for a one off.

PS: Note also that it is set up for "left side carry", another pretty strong indication.



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Old 05-17-2016, 09:26 AM
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My first thought was Moore, but I don't claim any special knowledge about this era. A picture of back of sheath would surely help.
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:00 AM
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Agreed. On my facebook page I mentioned it as being a custom made Clarence Moore sheath....I have never seen anything like it.
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