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Old 04-16-2002, 11:16 AM
sherpa1d
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Ok Don, What is Talonite


I saw the name Talonite on someones tutorial and how "Talonite will cut you, I've never worked with it and not got a cut" then I was reading your tutorial on dovetail bolsters and it was etched on the blade at the end...What is it?? and what are the bennefits\drawbacks???

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BTW - Don, nice knife in the tutorial!!
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Old 04-16-2002, 11:31 AM
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Talonite is a proprietary alloy sold by Carbide Processors. It is cobalt-based rather than steel-based.

The material that went into the knife on that tutorial cost $75, so it is not cheap. Here's the breakdown:

Carbon 1%
Molybdenum 1%
Manganese 2%
Silicon 2%
Iron 3%
Nickel 3%
Tungsten 5%
Chromium 30%
Cobalt 55%

No heat treat is required, since it is "age hardened", but it is relatively soft compared to other knife materials (45-47RC).

The reason it makes such a great blade material is that it is chock full of carbides (the things that do the cutting on a durable knife edge). It slices forever, and when it does require touching up, because of its relative softness, sharpening is easy.



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Old 04-16-2002, 02:00 PM
Raymond Richard
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Don,
Didn't you mention at one time that it was real tuff on grinding belts? Ray
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Old 04-16-2002, 06:43 PM
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Oh, yeah! And you can not cut it with a bandsaw (even bimetal); buy it close to the size you need, and grind off the excess. Drill only with carbide.
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Old 04-16-2002, 10:24 PM
sherpa1d
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That's good to know Don, thanks
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Old 04-17-2002, 08:50 AM
DracAmy
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Don,

Do you have any names/sites where talonite is available from? I haven't seen it at Admiral. I would like to try it once I've had practice on some of the air hardening for stock removal. I like the idea that it doesn't need heat treating. I can see colors but have no eye for knowing the differance between shades. You said it can't be cut on a bandsaw, how about a jewelers frame?

Drac
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Old 04-17-2002, 08:58 AM
Don Cowles
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Chuck Bybee is the distributor: titanium-man.com/
Good guy. Nope, can't cut it with jeweler's saw either. This is "grind only" stuff.
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Old 04-17-2002, 09:04 AM
DracAmy
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Nice site and not just for the metal.

thank you,
Drac
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Old 04-25-2002, 02:41 PM
sherpa1d
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Thanks for that link also Don, I haven't seen Ti in those thickness anywhere else.
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Old 04-26-2002, 12:13 PM
sherpa1d
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Last question (maybe)

Is there a notable weight differance between Talonite and some common knife steels. Such as Titanium is light enough to know there is a differance per square inch between it and Steel.
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Old 04-26-2002, 12:44 PM
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Short answer: no.
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