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Old 09-20-2005, 06:04 PM
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Sam Houston bowie

The most expensive bowie ever?

Who paid What?!!!!!!


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More reading on this story below.

Old news but some may have missed it. Some experts say this bowie is a total fake and scam. Pretty expensive mistake if that is the case. Anyone heard any stories on it?
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I've been to the museum (it's only a couple miles from where I work) and have seen the knife. I've gotta say that it looks very consistent with a lot of other pieces from that period. The fact that it's been locked up on display for so many years would also lead some creedence to the idea that it's real or is at least from the same period and COULD be real.

Sam Houston was a really interesting guy, and largely considered pretty strange even by his closest friends. He was badly wounded in a battle with Indians and the wound never healed, which may explain some of his oddness. Andrew Jackson commanded that army and Houston's bravery earned him a lifelong friendship with Jackson. (A rare thing for Jackson, who also had a pretty fascinating personality.) Houston showed up at the White House for dinner dressed in full Indian regalia, shocking even Jackson. Houstons knack for getting drunk and making speeches while hanging out with a local Indian tribe earned him the nickname "The Raven", though he married a woman in later years who was a devout Christian and she forced him to dry out. He was, by all descriptions, the kind of guy that would give away a knife to some neighbor kid if he thought that kid deserved it and/or would appreciate it. At the same time, he often wouldn't tell his closest friend what he was thinking. (I think of the Willie Nelson song: "..He ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right...")

There are a lot of revisionist historians who try to downplay Houston's place in history, but they are just wrong. He managed to outsmart and defeat the most powerful army in this hemisphere with a handfull of men. He was a general, president of the Republic of Texas, governor of Texas and of Tennessee, and senator. He spoke out for the rights of the Indians - and took a lot of personal and political abuse for that. He tried to keep Texas from leaving the Union. (He knew and hated Jefferson Davis, and believed that Davis was leading the formation of a confederacy to advance his own ambition.) He was nearly broke when he died, and he believed that his life was a failure because he had not become wealthy enough to provide more for his family. There's a lesson in this: The measure of a man is not in his bank account.


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Thanks for those thoughts. Interesting.


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