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Old 02-14-2004, 01:51 AM
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Rondel Dagger Recreation, Work in Progress

The next historic pattern that I'm recreating is a rondel dagger. I had a request for a specific style of rondel knife. It's based on an example once in the Guildhall Museum in London. But I believe it is now part of the Museum of London's collection. My dagger should be finished and posted late Sunday (just pinned and epoxied the handle). But until then, the historic piece it's based on is shown below.



This seems to me to be an atypical example of rondel dagger. And in Daggers and Fighting Knives of the Western World, Harold Peterson suggests that this is a transitional style to the Baselard form.


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Well here is my finished attempt at recreating this knife.



This is a 3-color ladder pattern rondel dagger. It is 14 inches, overall. The blade is 8 3/4" x 1 1/4". The handle is Black Walnut. The first two tubes are pins thru the tang, so with a 1/2 center tube the tang was a very wide 3/4".

It's different from the original, in that it's pattern welded. And the handle is a little stockier. However, that may not be too far off. In that I think the original shows signs of the handle having shrunk over the ages. Look at the photo and see how the tubes/pins are standing very proud above the handle material. That leads me to suspect shrinkage.


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Scott, it looks great! Neat handle styling with the two sizes of tubing as pins. Good looking damascus.
What material did you use for the guard and tubing?


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The tubing and the round plate at the guard are both brass. I imagine the period material would be iron. But it's hard to tell from the 1922 photograph. Brass was used during the 15th century. But it was very pricey.


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That's a really nice piece of work Scott. It looks pretty authentic based on the picture and that pattern-welding looks especially good. If you have another picture or two ......

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nice work, scott. i like the pattern in the blade.
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