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09-09-2003, 01:58 PM
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Basalard anyone?
Well I'm working on a basalard right now. I'll post a W.I.P. photo soon and a finished photo when I'm done.
The style of basalard I'm doing is based on two 14th century examples in Daggers and Fighting Knives of the Western World . They are the single and double edge ones shown with the integral handle/guard and slab handles. So far I'm doing less bladesmithing and more stock removal then usual. I started with 2 inch wide piece of steel and used my bandsaw to cut out the blade and make the cuts in at the quillions and pommel area. But I forged out my point and used the hammer chisel finish the cuts to clear the handle area. I doing a basalard mostly because I think I have only ever seen one maker offer them before. __________________ Scott B. Jaqua http://www.hagersonforge.com http://hagerson.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most important right of all, is that of Free Speech. With out that, all your other rights will soon be taken away. So, I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend until death, your right to say it! 
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09-10-2003, 08:53 AM
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Here's a picture of one I just found in the net:
baselard And another one, with a bit of historic information: swiss dagger I'm looking forward to your baselard, sjaqua.
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09-10-2003, 10:22 AM
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Baselard, Basalard, Bazelard (found that spelling in a Russian Museum)
 This is a an example of a reproduction of the knife I'm basing my design on. The only difference will be that I use tubes, instead of pins (like the originals) and I am using a straighter, hollow ground blade shape. Plus I decided the finish piece needed some texture. So I stabilized a couple of lace wood handle slabs last night. I'll try to post the work in progress photo tonight or tomorrow. Should have it finished by Saturday. __________________ Scott B. Jaqua http://www.hagersonforge.com http://hagerson.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most important right of all, is that of Free Speech. With out that, all your other rights will soon be taken away. So, I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend until death, your right to say it! Last edited by sjaqua; 09-10-2003 at 10:26 AM.
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09-10-2003, 12:13 PM
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Thanks for posting the pictures Scott. Having buried that particular book somewhere I really thought I was going to have to conduct an archaeological dig for it
 Looks like an interesting design and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your version of it. The lacewood certainly seems like a nice addition. Roger
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09-10-2003, 01:13 PM
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Hi Scott,
it seems that there are a lot of variations of the baselard-in some texts, it says they can be dagger to short sword length... I like the clean, unclutter look of the one you posted. In case anybody is interested, I found another picture of one made by a German knifemaker, G?nther Boelke, some time ago-its more along the line of the ones I posted above and has a very interestin sheath: baselard by Boelke -sorry, the direct link doesn't want to work: go to samples-scroll down to 'Schweizer Dolch' Jens. Last edited by JensJ; 09-10-2003 at 01:16 PM.
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09-10-2003, 02:19 PM
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Baselard by Boelke
__________________ "Many are chosen, but few are Pict" "The doer alone, learneth" NT Neo-Devo 
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09-11-2003, 10:42 AM
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Baselard, work in progress
Ok, here is the first image I promised. This is the blade in progress. Art this point the blade it self has achieved it's final shape and just needs a little more polish work. I still need to refine the handle/hilt area prior to mounting the handle slabs. I want to even-up the cross pieces and tapper the handle a little more.
__________________ Scott B. Jaqua http://www.hagersonforge.com http://hagerson.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most important right of all, is that of Free Speech. With out that, all your other rights will soon be taken away. So, I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend until death, your right to say it!
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09-11-2003, 03:32 PM
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Cool pics! I keep starting to do a baselard, but they always end up something else. Of course now I have an itching to do the eared dagger!
This one was originally going to be a baselard...now it's tagged for a rondel dagger . 3 Steels mixed, 8" bladelength, single edge with false upper edge. One of these days I'll finish it!http://home.armourarchive.org/member.../baselard1.jpg This one also was going to be a baselard...now it's just a generic single edged, 15" bladed long dagger in need of a pommel. 1050 steel with mokume and 304 fittings. Claycoated and quenched in oil (neat "hamon" in the light). Purple heart handle, psuedo-coffing style. I'll have more pics when it's finished in another decade or so... http://home.armourarchive.org/members/krag/royal1.jpg __________________ Don "Krag" Halter 
Last edited by Don Halter; 09-11-2003 at 03:34 PM.
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09-13-2003, 10:31 PM
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Isn't this basalard knife, just a different style of the Roman short sword or gladius. To me they look very similar, or am I seeing things. Maybe I am thinking of the roman knife, but would like to know your opinions, as they are really nice looking blades.
Ken Beatty __________________ Ken (wwjd) http://www.wacoknives.com "One Nation Under God"
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09-15-2003, 10:36 AM
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Yes and no.......
While it's true that there isn't really new much under the sun, in knives, it's the details that count. The Baselard is unique in that the butt-plate pommel is the same width or wider then the guard. It is the "I" beam shape of the handle/guard/pommel that is distinct to the Baselard, not the blade shape. __________________ Scott B. Jaqua http://www.hagersonforge.com http://hagerson.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most important right of all, is that of Free Speech. With out that, all your other rights will soon be taken away. So, I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend until death, your right to say it!
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10-06-2003, 11:22 AM
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 Well here is the finished photo. The wood handle slabs proved to be too brittle the way I was doing them. So I went with Ivory paper Micarta instead. __________________ Scott B. Jaqua http://www.hagersonforge.com http://hagerson.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most important right of all, is that of Free Speech. With out that, all your other rights will soon be taken away. So, I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend until death, your right to say it!
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10-06-2003, 11:31 AM
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Scott, nice job on that daggar grind. I like the micarta too. I was getting ready to post this for you to see just as you posted. Freaky!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...gory=4005&rd=1 __________________ "Many are chosen, but few are Pict" "The doer alone, learneth" NT Neo-Devo
Last edited by hammerdownnow; 10-06-2003 at 11:35 AM.
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