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Old 09-02-2003, 03:03 PM
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Nice pic of a lot of knives for sale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2189999632&category=1552&rd=1


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Here's thw whole URL:

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Wish I had some spare cash!


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Those would be so cool to get. I might have to check the finances....


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Old 09-03-2003, 09:41 AM
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Those are way overpriced for their condition. I usually get lots of that size, in that condition for about $20-30 (plus international shipping from Germany ~$12).


Here's an interesting one: (if you believe the guy...)
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...gename=rvi:1:3


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Is there a specific place you get them from Don?

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Old 09-03-2003, 06:54 PM
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Ebay-Germany seems to be the best place right now. There's a nice axe up for a decent price. If I had the money right now, it would be my first choice. Lots of cool roman iron arrowheads pretty often.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454
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You have to know what you're looking at to avoid getting crap. In Germany, the guy with the metal detector and the land owner split the earnings 50/50. The only things reportable to the govt are armour parts, religous artifacts and grave sites/human remains. If you have patience, some authentic stuff comes up fairly regularly. Unfortunately, the guys finding it don't always know what they have. I got 4 15-16th century axeheads. The guy was nice enough to try and "remove" the rust before placing them on auction!!:confused: Fortunately, he only ruined one.

I used to know a few other guys that sold stuff on websites, but their sites are down and their emails bounce for the last couple years .

All the stuff you see on Ebay-USA is second-hand at best and inflated prices.

http://listings.ebay.de/pool2/plisti....html?from=R11
Of course...speaking German helps!

Basics in ebay descriptions:
Messer (Knife)
Biel (axe)
MA, mittelalter (middle ages)
armbrustbolzen (crossbow bolts/arrowheads)
pfielspitzen (arrowhead)
lanzenspitze (spearhead)
klapmesser (folding knife)
versand weltweit (ships worldwide)


Of course...now that I've given you this information, I'll have to kill you.


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Old 09-04-2003, 04:11 PM
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Good thread, I like to see this sort of information being shared, even if Don now has to hunt us all down

I keep looking at seax blades, arrowheads, spearheads and the like on eBay but all I ever end up buying are coins.

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We just bought a house, so there goes my ebay-aholic spending money for the next year! I figure by sharing info with people I know...if you but something really cool, I can come visit and check it out!

When they firt started Ebay-Germany, it was only about 10 pages total. Things were cheap...really cheap. That lasted about a month. I managed to stock up, though. Some really nice stuff, some junk. OK, lots of junk, but a few authentic pieces more than made up for it! My prize possesion is a 13th century haft-axe head. I have several "carpenter's" axe heads and a big ol' chisel that are pretty neat.

On the knife blades...
I ended up with lots of old rusted steak knives and broken pocket knife blades. Out of ~75 blades total, I have about 40 that are pretty definitely original.

Back then they were going for about $10 for groups of about a dozen, though. We have a great history/antiquity group here at the university that's been a great help in preserving and identifying some the items I have as well. Of course, being one of the safety officers that inspects their labs probably helps .

P.S. I have a fair share of coins as well. They're just plain fun!


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Old 09-16-2003, 12:32 PM
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Hi Don! Would you be kind enoufgh to tell us what the typical blade geomotry is on your collection of excavated/period knives? Do they generally have a double bevel or a single "scandinavian"/chisel shape? I realize that each is probably very individual...but what are some of the common shapes?

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Old 09-16-2003, 01:01 PM
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I'll be scanning and taking measurements of many for another forum member. I'll go ahead and set up a page with the info for all to look at.

In general, every blade I have appears to be single edged, double beveled. Some are flat bevels, some more convex. Kind of hard to say since most are in "as dug" condition...which translates into pitted, rusted and caked, but cheap! If the spine is pitted and altered due to corrosion, a doubel bevel could infact be a chisel single bevel. The bevels start at the spine and there's no "ricasso" area, so there's not much of a reference point.

I have a lot that are in really good shape also, though. It's surprising how thick some of these blades are at the spine when compared to their length.


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Old 09-16-2003, 01:30 PM
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Woo hoo! I'll try to wait patiently for that page Thanks alot! It'll be great to get a better idea of how some of these blades were designed. A picture can only tell so much and the measurements will be exciting to see.

Many thanks in advance,

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Old 09-17-2003, 12:10 PM
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Ooh - look at this one - http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454

and this one - http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454

and this one - http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=19454

Definitely some cool stuff over there. Thanks for the tip, Don


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These links have helped me in my search for shapes of using knives from about 1300, my prototypes for a group of re?nactors seem to be rather accurate.
thanks
I'm also curious for the data you are gathering, Don

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