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Old 02-11-2013, 03:38 PM
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Any particular brand of file to use???

Hello All!
Yes I am one of those pestery newbies here that knows nothing about knife making but I have read and read on this forum as well as on many different other forums. I am really intriguded about this hobby. I have a 13 years old son that loves to hunt and fish and he loves knives. I am trying to find us a hobby to share for us both to enjoy.
I would like to start on a simple little knife project that my son and I can do using hand files. I would eventually like to be able to getting into the belt sanding and maybe even some forging but that is a long way down the road. One has to crawl before they can walk.
My question is what particular brand of single mill files do yall recommend? Also I figure the longer stroke the better so I was looking at some 12 to 14 inch files. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and I really enjoy this forum. This is my first post but I have read for hours and hours learning all kind of neat stuff. Thanks for your time and have wonderful day!!!
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Okay...Now I have another question. I know that you are suppose to use a single mill file using a forward motion stroke. Is it permitable to use a double mill bastard file while profiling the blade to cut down on all the filing? After that begin to clean it up using the single mill.
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Okay...Now I have another question. I know that you are suppose to use a single mill file using a forward motion stroke. Is it permitable to use a double mill bastard file while profiling the blade to cut down on all the filing? After that begin to clean it up using the single mill.
thats what i have ebeen doing. seems to work ok. I have been draw filing at 90degrees.


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Probably ok now....the File Police were decommissioned on page 1244 of OB-Care.
Use what ever means gets you there, just remember to never draw the file backward.
You can really speed things up using a sidegrinder to bulk out your primary bevels. Takes a bit of practice but gets you to the filing stage a lot faster. Just remember to stop grinding just before you go too far.


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Old 02-12-2013, 08:53 PM
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Not sure what your access to Nicholson Files but these guys had great deals on files

http://shop.vendio.com/satco/item/879197718/index.html

I'd highly recommend a file card as well
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Not sure what your access to Nicholson Files but these guys had great deals on files

http://shop.vendio.com/satco/item/879197718/index.html

I'd highly recommend a file card as well
Thanks for the info! I greatly apprecaite it. I did not see any long files like a 14 or 16 inch. My thinking is if I got a 16 inch file I would have a longer stroke therefore my file time might be reduced. I know that I am not going to be able to avoid the tedious time factor on filing by hand. I know it is something that will require hours of work but I think it will teach my son to appreciate the reward of hard work and patients to produce something worth while.

Any thoughts or opinions???
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For roughing out the profile it might speed things up a bit, but it might be harder to control, especially for a 13 year old. For draw filing, the length really doesnt matter.

I'd recommend 1/2 rounds in Bastard, Second and Smooth cuts (This will allow you to do things like finger guards in full tang knifes).

I'd pick up a couple of round (larger) and chainsaw files (smaller diameter) and a tri-square

I think you be pleasantly surprised on how fast you can remove metal with a file
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For roughing out the profile it might speed things up a bit, but it might be harder to control, especially for a 13 year old. For draw filing, the length really doesnt matter.

I'd recommend 1/2 rounds in Bastard, Second and Smooth cuts (This will allow you to do things like finger guards in full tang knifes).

I'd pick up a couple of round (larger) and chainsaw files (smaller diameter) and a tri-square

I think you be pleasantly surprised on how fast you can remove metal with a file
So you suggest using some half rounds instead of the flat files?
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half round files have a flat side two files in one the only problem is most half rounds are double cut
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I'd recommend it based solely on cost. If you can get both, buy both
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If I may add my opinion to thisw body of knowledge, About 20 years ago a ran across a file made by the "SIMONDS" Folks. I use the "Multi-Kut" style. I purchase them by the dozen and they work really well for me. They are a bit pricy but are superior to the Nicholsen and diamond brands in my opinion. I have tried several brands from the Baltic Nations but the fall short to the Simonds. They have a diamond shape cut in the teeth that dispurse the cut metal and they last a good bit longer than the others. Google up on the internet if you want to try them.

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