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Old 11-07-2006, 10:38 PM
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bowie blades, full tang or hidden tang?

Hello,

I have a bar of pattern welded damascus steel im going to have a tang welded on then cut into a bowie shape. My question/concern is this for stability and reliability do I go with a full tang or a hidden tang? the thickness of the billet is 1/8" and going to be a classic drop point flat ground.

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Old 11-08-2006, 08:30 PM
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No one else is speaking up here, so I'll put my 2 cents in, just give me change back if you don't use it all

I think you should go with whichever your design looks best with. Frankly, I don't see much difference as the weld is going to be the weakest link in either case. Some other folks might disagree with me here, but I don't see it making much difference.


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Old 11-08-2006, 09:14 PM
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I think a lot would depend on where you have the weld. If the weld is going to be right at the guard I doubt you will have the strength for a true working knife. If the weld is going to be in the handle then it really shouldn't make a difference.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:07 PM
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Just my observation here, you said this is a pattern welded billet if you weld a tang on and do a full tang your not going to have pattern on the tang. So I would do a hidden tang. Like Steve said you do not want your weld at your guard, I would put it in the middle of the handle.


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Old 11-09-2006, 05:48 PM
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Something that you will definately want to do is to normalize the billet after welding the tang. I would also agree that the weld should be back from the guard at least an inch or two. I never etch the tang on my full tang damascus so I don't see a problem there.

You said that the billet is 1/8" which IMHO is too thin for a Bowie. I probably would make a couple of 3-4" hunters from it.

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Old 11-09-2006, 06:53 PM
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cant' do a couple 3-4" hunters from it. the pattern is non-compliant for multiple blades. The thickness is not as thick as it should be but this particular one will be display only.

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Old 11-09-2006, 11:14 PM
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ok! she is done.

Went with a full tang and a clip point bowie type. I do appreciate all the help here and I did learn alot.

on to the good stuff. here's what the blade looks like now.


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Old 11-10-2006, 09:48 PM
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Ed,

I see now why you weren't interested in something smaller.

That is one more purdy piece. Really nice.

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Old 11-16-2006, 10:14 PM
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That is the most awesome Damascus I have ever seen! Got any more?


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Old 11-16-2006, 10:20 PM
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sadly no I do not. I do have an email in to larry donnely in PA about getting some more and possibly some other flags like the canadian flag. suppose I could market this one as truely unique.

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Wow I would like to see how they get that done just right !! Very nice


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