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Old 11-17-2011, 08:26 AM
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Pet animals in Shop? ideas?

Hey Everyone

Warning- really stupid question coming. Does anyone have animals inside their shop? Is it a good idea or not?

Let me explain a bit. Somewhere in the near future I?m going to have a few bantam hens or Muscovy ducks (my daughter is fascinated by birds, especially ducks and chickens). I was thinking about having an enclosed ?coop? area with the nesting boxes/ roosts/ food & water in the shop with a door to the areas outside I would use as runs. Keeping them in my shop would (probably) qualify them as house pets and exempt them from the ?animals prohibited from village? ordinance that I?ve been trying to get changed for a year now. Basically I'm going to end up with some feathered "shop mascots".

Any thoughts? I know I would have to rig some kind of curtain for when grinding or otherwise kicking up dust & to block noise when during really loud shop activities. What else do should I watch out for?

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Old 11-17-2011, 09:30 AM
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Some years back a dog owned by Wayne Goddard passed away. The dog had laid around in Wayne's shop for years. On a hunch, Wayne had the vet autopsy the dog and found that its lungs were packed with all the stuff we wear respirators to avoid. I doubt hanging a curtain is going to protect your birds especially when you consider the type of high speed respiration birds have.

Bottom line: very bad idea ....


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Old 11-17-2011, 03:05 PM
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And don't count on them being (or having access to ) indoors as adequate for the "animals prohibited from village". Often those types of ordinances have specific exclusions for "typical house pets" or specific inclusions for "typical barnyard animals".
Having had chickens and geese in the past, I wouldn't have them in a shop, they get their own coop.

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Old 11-20-2011, 05:42 AM
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You're dealing with local B'crats.......it all depends on coffee and donut availability prior to their visit and how vocal the "friendly" neighbor is when they rat you out.

Good luck with it, however if you have already made contact with them on previous issue(s) and they didn't like it......you ARE on the list!

I also agree with "No Pets Allowed", they do not know the dangers and cannot protect themselves. Plus they can be that serious distraction that cost you an appendage or change your facial expression - permanently. Not worth a few eggs or fried bird dinner.


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Old 11-22-2011, 10:07 AM
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I certainly wouldn't let them run free in the shop. But even if they are cooped, chickens scare easy and they may not lay any eggs because they are too stressed by the noise, sparks, and smoke. Your coop may become a fire hazard, too. I agree with Carl's take on the local bureaucrats. Depends on how vocal your neighbors are. I used to own a pygmy goat, living in the city and although she was considered "livestock" and therefore not allowed, the neighbors loved her and we never got into any trouble. As a matter of principle, I don't allow kids or animals in my shop. Too may sharp corners, objects and junk on the floor (even though I'm ANAL about keeping it clean!)- had to dig a metal filing out of my son's foot once. He just walked through the shop barefoot once, hoping to take a "short cut" when the old man wasn't looking...


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Old 11-24-2011, 05:58 PM
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Ray: I believe it was Bob Loveless who lost a dog laying next to his belt grinder.

Dave: I have had lambs, puppies, old dogs, cats, kittens, birds and even a bat or two and a nest of wasps and a couple of rattle snakes share time with me in my shop. My friend has a chicken in his shop that has been there for over 5 years, a little messy but sometimes they will have their favorite place to eliminate body waste and it is a good place for the newspaper.

My suggestion: enjoy their company and good luck.


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Old 11-28-2011, 07:39 AM
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Thanks guys

The situation resolved itself as far as the space goes. We're probably going to put a small greenhouse on the back of shop. The coop area can go in or attached to it.

As for dealing with the Village- that's another headache entirely. If you hear a loud hollow "thunking" sound coming from central IL, that's me beating my head on the wall dealing with them.

Thanks for the advice.
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:33 AM
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A Ha now I know where the term village idiot comes from. Good luck dealing with em Dave. Check the wording of the ordinace closely. I know of two cases here locally: one where a lady had to go to court but she prevailed. Her ordinace prohibited hooved animals in town. When her attorney pointed out that the ordinace specified "hooved animals" and she only had one mini horse, singlular, the judge dismissed the case as not applying. On the second case the lady was cited for having too many horses over the two allowed for her acreage. She had bought a mini to keep her regular horse company. She didn't know the mini was in foal and soon popped out a little baby. I told her the above story and she looked closely at the ordinace and it actually defined horse with a height measurement. Neither of her minis qualified as horses and therefore she was actually one horse under her limit. Another case dismissed, this time before it went to court. Check the wording closely! Could be fun.


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Old 12-02-2011, 04:18 PM
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Get 'em on a treadmill and save yourself something on your electricity bill, not the duck's bill. Now I'm just confusing myself.
But seriously, animals and people around any grinding is dodgy at best. I'm from a boomerang background at international competition level, and one of the great makers of long distance boomerangs died young from cancer. He used to make a lot of phenolic (micarta, paxolin, whatever) boomerangs, and was known not to wear a mask or respirator. Nobody can prove he died as a result of boomerang making, but it is likely. I hate the idea of your daughter losing her beloved birds as a result.
Just read your post above about the greenhouse. Nevertheless, I think the warning stands. Especially as small animals have small lungs, which would clog up proportionally much quicker than ours.
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