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Old 03-09-2014, 06:01 PM
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Newbee from Oregon

I have made a start, with a little bit of research, but obviously not enough. Attached is my first effort from a table saw blade. I have constructed a forge that uses briquettes, not knowing how well it will really work.

The biggest question I have right now is would it be better to anneal the blade now or finish working it up at it's current hardness?

George
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:04 PM
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Welcome!
We are all on Ray Rogers chat right now...you should come chat with us!!
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:00 PM
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George,

Looks like you did some nice work there but I'm sorry to say you have probably wasted your time and effort. Most table saw blades won't harden enough for a real knife blade, that's why they have carbide teeth attached to them. If you want to finish that knife I'd just go ahead and do whatever grinding or filing you plan to do and put a handle on it. Any heating you may do with briquettes is more likely to soften it than make it any harder.

You'll want to work towards getting some 1084 steel which you will have to order (not found in hardware stores) and consider building a simple propane forge for heat treating. If you go about it carefully, these things can be had pretty cheaply ...


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Old 03-09-2014, 10:18 PM
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Thanks Ray,

I kind of figured that would be about right. I have researched gas forges and will probably build one soon. I think the hard part around where I live will be obtaining some insulation blanket material.

As for the knife blade, good practice without belt sander or grinder I guess. I will need to spend some time learning steel and alloy numbers and characteristics too. My father made two knives from very old hack saw blades (probably 1940's stock) which were very good blades. I'd rather stay closer to high carbon steel than stainless.

George
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:51 PM
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welcome George.

looks like you have a good start to your knife.

you have a wealth of info at your hands here just for the asking. If you want to take a little trip south of you to Eugene, we have the 5160 club that meets every month. lots of forgers in the group so you can get lots of info on building a forge.

you also need to plan on coming to OKCA in Eugene on April 12 /13. they will have lots of demos there. last I heard its a sold out show with over 330 tables stop by our club table and we can talk knives for a while.

you can get your blanket in Eugene too at the Goergies pottery store. I believe they sell it by the foot or the roll.

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Old 03-10-2014, 09:18 AM
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Erik's suggestions are very good but if you can't get to Eugene you can order insulation and any other forge building materials from hightemptools.com


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Old 03-10-2014, 11:52 AM
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Thanks to all,

I'll see what I can do...

George
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:45 PM
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Plans made to get down to Eugene for the OKCA show, and probably the gun show too.

George
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:47 AM
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Welcome to the "obsession", George. It's a great hobby. If you need forge materials like insulation, fire bricks and mortar check out pottery supply stores. They usually carry that sort of thing and are a bit more common than knife making supply houses (I found, anyway). You're lucky if you have a club you can go to to meet with other knife makers. Best way to get and exchange information and experience.


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Old 03-15-2014, 12:37 PM
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Welcome aboard George! I like the profile of that knife. Take the great advice from these guys. Its great that you are going to Eugene, learn all you can, get some steel and make some knives. Test them and then test them again. And before you know it, you will have people that want you to make them a knife.

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Old 03-16-2014, 12:40 AM
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Thanks Chris and Matt. Going to the show should be educational.

George
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