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Old 03-01-2014, 05:22 AM
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AEB-L Stainless Comparison

So this morning I was skimming through some websites and planning on ordering some steel.

My plan had been to pick up either 1084 or 440C as both seem to come well recommended. Once I got looking however, the size and thickness that I wanted was unavailable and the supplier is advertising this AEB-L Stainless as a cheaper alternative that is in many ways superior to 440C.

I've never heard of it before, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask around before I made a purchase. I was planning on sending it back to the same supplier for heat treating this time around. here is the website I was looking at : https://www.knifemaker.ca/home.php

Please weigh in everyone and tell me what your thoughts are on it.

On a side note, I just made my first purchase from usaknifemaker.com (I picked up some G-10 and micarta) so I'm pretty excited about that. Shipping to Canada was very reasonable.

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Old 03-01-2014, 09:07 AM
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I can't imagine that you want a size and thickness of 440C that isn't available because that steel comes in as many different sizes as any steel we have. But, if that is what it is then AEB-L is a good substitute...


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Old 03-01-2014, 03:39 PM
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Thanks for the reply.

What I was trying to say was that the inventory available right this instant was not in the size that I was looking for. I'm looking for 1/8"x 1.5" (or so) and trying to get the best bang for my buck. It appears they are sold out of the 1084 and 440C, in that size so that's what got me thinking about the other option.

Mostly it is that I got the go ahead to buy steel from my wife and want to purchase before something else comes up that is more important.

also the comparison is 1.58$per inch of the next available size, being 1/8"x2" of 440C vs 0.88$/inch of 1/8"x1.5" of the AEB-L. shipping, of course, is the same for either.


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Old 03-01-2014, 04:14 PM
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Makes sense. You might check knifemaking.com and also usaknifemakers.com I saw some 440C and 1080 that was comparable in price to your quote. I didn't see much 1.5" but I did see some 4" in 1080, I believe, that could be cut down. Anyway, never a bad idea to shop around ...


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Old 03-01-2014, 04:57 PM
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AEB-L and 13c26 are fun stuff and quickly becoming a standard for kitchen knives. It has a lowish carbon content which, in the case of stainless steels, keeps those large gooey carbides from forming. I believe that it can produce finer carbides than many carbon steels even. Check http://www.devinthomas.com/faq.html .

It also doesn't get the orange peel effect like 440c.

Of course this is all dependent on a decent heat treat, this steel seems to benefit a lot from cryo. Pete's has a good recipe for it.

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Old 03-28-2014, 07:49 PM
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about 35 years ago, The Alaska knifemakers association bought about 2 metric tons of the stuff and it was wonderful to work with. Heat treated just like 440-C and cut like butter. We bought another metric ton about a year later and it was the steel from hell. No matter how it was cut, when it was ground, it warped horribly. That is a large French chefs knife down to a tiny pocket knife blade. That was the occurence with every one that used the second lot. We contacted the mill and they assured us that it was exactaly the same as the first batch NOT...... So........buyer beware. I have no ides what the stuff is now but I would not waste my money on it.

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Old 03-30-2014, 07:00 AM
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check out alpha knife supply if you are looking for more bang for your buck, lots of great steels at different cuts and the shipping is fast. I spend too much time on there.

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