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Old 02-01-2004, 04:58 PM
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Bog Oak

Hi Fellas,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a supplier (small usable quanities) of Bog Oak. I have been wanting to play with some for awhile but have not found any-not even on eBay. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Hope this year is going well for all of you. NT
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Old 02-01-2004, 06:41 PM
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Hi Nathan. I am amazed that I got to this question before Mike Hull .... but he will have a source ready for you

What kind of dimensions are you looking for?

I'll be back tomorrow with at least one source, and not all based in Ireland....

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Old 02-01-2004, 07:06 PM
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http://www.hearnehardwoods.com/Inventory/bogoak.html

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kataylor/knifeblanks.htm


A couple to start with

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Old 02-01-2004, 07:25 PM
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Thanks Roger,
That second site looks good. I want pieces to use for sgians and dirks. I have never used bog oak before and was wondering how easy it is to work and the best methods to use in finishing? I also wanted to say how much I enjoy this forum and the makers that contibute to it. Thanks again!
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Old 02-01-2004, 10:10 PM
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Hi Nathan. I am amazed that I got to this question before Mike Hull .... but he will have a source ready for you

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Hahahaaaaa.....! I was going to send him to British Blades forum.
I caught that Irish remark too. Bogtrotters, indeed!


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Old 02-02-2004, 01:09 PM
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Thanks Roger,
That second site looks good. I want pieces to use for sgians and dirks. I have never used bog oak before and was wondering how easy it is to work and the best methods to use in finishing? I also wanted to say how much I enjoy this forum and the makers that contibute to it. Thanks again!
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I see a lot of reference to bog oak being used for sgian dhubs and dirks but not many people selling it.

There was some discussion over at British Blades about how to work and finish bog oak, I just can't find the references. I'll just ask again

The people who contribute here make the place very special. I just wish all their help would make me a good knifemaker without me having to work at it

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Old 02-02-2004, 01:15 PM
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Hahahaaaaa.....! I was going to send him to British Blades forum.
I caught that Irish remark too. Bogtrotters, indeed!
Mike, there was indeed a thread about bog oak at BB, Martyn was looking for some and I think he tracked some down. My memory isn't much good so I can't remember whether that was before or after the server change so it may all be lost....

The Irish remark was actually serious

I don't know anything about bog oak outside the British Isles. Agriculture on the mainland became intensive a long time before Ireland and most of the big bog oak pieces were dug up and used or destroyed by the beginning of the 20th century. It's still being dug up in Ireland today. It might be happening in Scotland to an extent but I know there is still quite a trade in new works carved from Irish bog oak.

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Roger, this looks interesting.
http://www.qra.org.uk/discussion_are...1/00000033.htm

Here's a nice dagger with Bog Oak on it.
http://www.duncan-house.com/knives/small/bogoak/


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Both interesting links, thanks Mike.

That Duncan House stuff .... I've never heard of it, I'm going to have to work through the whole site now

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That batch of links courtesy of Colin KC

I would think The Lumber Lady would be a good bet for anyone in the USA, she seems to have a good reputation.

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I've bought bog oak from Kim Taylor. Great supplier. Back when I got it, he didn't have any pieces big enough for a dirk handle. I've used it on a few pieces, including a sgian dubh I put pictures of in the gallery here. One thing about bog oak -- it's not the greatest wood for carving. I don't think the fancy carved dirks used it. The grain is too big.


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Good point about the grain.

As soon as good ebony became available it was the material of choice I believe.

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A lot of the early dirks used black thorn (still used to make walking sticks), hawthorn root, and/or boxwood as the handle material. During the Victorian era African Blackwood (still used on bagpipes) or ebony became the favored wood(s).
The tightness of the grain of bog oak - like most any wood - will depend on a lot of factors and each piece will vary considerably. For instance I've had red oak that normally has a very open grain have a real tight grain.


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Thanks for all of the great imput. I plan to use some of the resources that all of you provided. NT
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