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OK I thought you guys ment it was the magnetism that changed the ring that's why I didn't understand.....SAWDUST you will learn a lot from this forum. Yeh some stuff I leanred by trial and error and experience...other than that the vasto majority of what I know now came from the men on this forum. When you start heat treating remember to do the tests and break the blades to see the results. Get that done early on before you put a lot of effort into finishing a knife that the heat treat my be lacking.
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